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Over the years, what are some of the situations you’ve encountered where someone insisted codes said something they didn’t? Can you think of any times authorities demanded something not required, or deliberately mis-applied codes?
I’ve seen this arise most often with ADA, range hood, sign circuit. load calculation, and lock-out requirements.
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The biggest confusions I see are around HVAC condenser wire size and swimming pool bonding. The SDS, non-SDS thing around generators can get some conflicts started too
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How about the ADA?
Quick question: When a job calls for ADA compliance, how high so you mount the receptacles?
Every print I’ve seen only says “comply.” No elaboration. Have tou ever read the ADA?
“Experts” will produce sketches that are copied from an appendix to the ADA. You are told these are the requirements. Yet the sketches and the text of the ADA itself plainly state that the sketches are NOT part of the code.
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If the switches and receptacles are supposed to be "accessible" those reach distances from a wheelchair apply and I have seen it on plans. (State of Florida projects)
Both side and forward approach to an unobstructed operable part is 15-48" AFF so it is not an undue burden. You just can't mount the receptacles the height of your hammer unless you have a real long hammer. The rub comes in when you have counters or other obstructions. It might be hard to design a kitchen that complies with ADA and article 210.52 if you have base cabinets with no "knee space" every couple feet adjacent to any required receptacles serving the countertop. The person then doesn't have a lot of accessible cabinet space. My wife built a few ADA houses but they coordinated with the customer more than applying the code. The biggest issue was wheelchair turning space in a cookie cutter house that wasn't designed for it. Lots of walls moved from the original plan. I think they used her template for later houses tho. She did get it all squeezed into a 2000 sq/ft floor plan without really losing much.
They didn't obsess about receptacle height over obstructions but they were 18" on the open walls.
Greg Fretwell
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